{"id":400,"date":"2008-04-10T15:07:51","date_gmt":"2008-04-10T15:07:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/?p=400"},"modified":"2010-11-24T02:39:55","modified_gmt":"2010-11-24T07:39:55","slug":"unnatural_selec","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/?p=400","title":{"rendered":"Unnatural selection"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m missing something, but the following strikes me as a profoundly stupid question:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Why do women long outlive their fertility?<\/p>\n<p>Human ovaries tend to shut down by age 50 or even younger, yet women commonly live on healthily for decades. This flies in the face of evolutionary theory that losing fertility should be the end of the line, because once breeding stops, evolution can no longer select for genes that promote survival.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Women <em>don&#8217;t<\/em> outlive their fertility in their natural environment. The <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Life_expectancy#Life_expectancy_over_human_history\">life expectancy<\/a> of primitive humans averages between 20 and 35 years. And the women fare worse than the men, because a quarter of them die in childbirth.<\/p>\n<p>We non-primitive humans live a great deal longer because of modern medical care, the <em>entire purpose<\/em> of which is to interfere with natural selection. Nature has plenty of mechanisms for eliminating women from the world long before they reach menopause, but we do everything in our power to prevent those mechanisms from operating.<\/p>\n<p>Saying that this &#8220;flies in the face of evolutionary theory&#8221; is an indication of staggering cluelessness. Evolutionary theory describes how evolution works in a <em>natural<\/em> setting. <em>Of course<\/em> it fails when you try to apply it to a technological society with advanced medical care. Next you&#8217;ll be telling me that space travel flies in the face of gravitational theory because space probes go <em>up<\/em> instead of down.<\/p>\n<p>Women live long enough for their reproductive systems to shut down for the same reason that both men and women live long enough for our teeth to start crumbling and have to be repaired or replaced. In our original environment (the savannahs of Africa), human bodies only had to last for 20 to 35 years. Beyond that point, it didn&#8217;t matter what systems might fail; we were never going to live that long anyway.<\/p>\n<p>But now we&#8217;ve changed the rules. We routinely keep our bodies running for three or four times as long as they were originally designed to operate. Of course some parts stop working! It is <em>unnatural<\/em> for humans to live as long as we do. We are interfering with human evolution on a massive scale.<\/p>\n<p>What really baffles me is that the people asking this stupid question are evolutionary biologists, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciam.com\/article.cfm?id=the-origin-of-menopause\">the article quoting them<\/a> is in <em>Scientific American<\/em>. Why do expert scientists and science journalists have so much trouble seeing such an obvious explanation?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m missing something, but the following strikes me as a profoundly stupid question: &#8220;Why do women long outlive their fertility?&#8221;<br \/>\n <a href=\"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/?p=400\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[15,24],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-400","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-health","category-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/400","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=400"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/400\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":436,"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/400\/revisions\/436"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=400"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=400"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/patberry.net\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=400"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}